Bruh

Diyah May 4, 2021 9:59 pm

I don’t know how to feel about this manga. Like how is she both grooming him and not grooming him at the same time. And how is he both obsessed and not completely obsessed with her (yet) like homeboy will do anything for her but when she doesn’t want to say anything he respects that. He values her and wants her affection but SHE MANIPULATED HIM USING HIS MOTHERS DEATH. But he was goignto rebel anyway cuz the emprer was/is a piece of shit like????? Someone help, this is too much like real life, too many blurred lines here

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    theoaktree May 4, 2021 10:07 pm

    wait- i don’t remember her using dylan’s mother’s death as an excuse to use him? i mean yeah she utilized his mother’s death after the letter that the mother left him but didn’t the letter say make him king or something like that? correct me if i’m wrong

    Diyah May 4, 2021 10:29 pm
    wait- i don’t remember her using dylan’s mother’s death as an excuse to use him? i mean yeah she utilized his mother’s death after the letter that the mother left him but didn’t the letter say make hi... theoaktree

    Bro same I don’t really remember. this is exactly why I’m so conflicted like ‘is this even goign to become a healthy relationship?’ Because on one hand they could Ben great for each other or they could crash and burn

    acruxion May 4, 2021 11:46 pm

    Looking at their interactions at this point of the story, I wouldn’t say that their relationship is unhealthy. They are both benefiting from each other, with Charlize using Dylan as a tool for revenge, and Dylan using Charlize as a trainer and a companion. I’m not sure if Dylan will grow full yandere in the future, but as to where it stands right now, they are not hurting each other

    pp juice May 4, 2021 11:54 pm
    wait- i don’t remember her using dylan’s mother’s death as an excuse to use him? i mean yeah she utilized his mother’s death after the letter that the mother left him but didn’t the letter say make hi... theoaktree

    she did, she got closer to the mom (before the mom died) in order to be the trusted emotional support for male lead. but i wouldn't it's grooming per se but more of manipulating male lead to lean on her and training him to be the next powerful emperor for her revenge, since she didn't try to manipulate male lead into underage sexual activities or indulge in flirtatious manner with the male lead. if i remembered correctly i think she is about a year or two older than dylan but idk either of their ages now :O

    Mochi May 5, 2021 2:56 am

    Grooming would imply that she raised him with sexual intentions in mind which she did not not, however i would say that she did manipulate him a good bit

    Diyah May 5, 2021 3:05 am
    Grooming would imply that she raised him with sexual intentions in mind which she did not not, however i would say that she did manipulate him a good bit Mochi

    ooohhh ok, that makes me feel a bit better

    Spookiboi May 5, 2021 5:15 am
    Grooming would imply that she raised him with sexual intentions in mind which she did not not, however i would say that she did manipulate him a good bit Mochi

    Saying he was groomed doesn’t imply sexual intent, you can groom someone into doing things completely non sexually. A good example would be shigaraki from mha, he was groomed to becoming a villain by afo. We can see the same grooming happening here to prince but it’s a bit different cause the prince already was little off to begin with. But I get your point

    pp juice May 5, 2021 6:32 am
    Saying he was groomed doesn’t imply sexual intent, you can groom someone into doing things completely non sexually. A good example would be shigaraki from mha, he was groomed to becoming a villain by afo. We ... Spookiboi

    yeah, but most people in the comments are using "grooming" to accuse mc of being a paedophile :'( rip.

    Spookiboi May 5, 2021 3:23 pm
    yeah, but most people in the comments are using "grooming" to accuse mc of being a paedophile :'( rip. pp juice

    HUH?!!! WHAT THE HELL DID U DO also no that can be one way to use grooming but it can be used for non sexual context like my mha example!

    pp juice May 5, 2021 5:19 pm
    HUH?!!! WHAT THE HELL DID U DO also no that can be one way to use grooming but it can be used for non sexual context like my mha example! Spookiboi

    yes. i meant rather than using "grooming" to describe mc training the male lead to be a tyrant n quickening the pace of the rebellion, the comments are saying "mc groomed male lead to love her" when she didn't and it was purely the male lead's own growing feelings. wakwkakwkak ppl in the comments be reaching for something to grab and accuse mc of being a pedo.

    Spookiboi May 5, 2021 11:25 pm
    yes. i meant rather than using "grooming" to describe mc training the male lead to be a tyrant n quickening the pace of the rebellion, the comments are saying "mc groomed male lead to love her" when she didn't ... pp juice

    She isn’t a pedo but she is manipulating him but on the other hand he also has some obsessive tendency, like as soon as he thought of her as someone who understands his intelligence he formed an obsession with her. She definitely groomed into being a tyrant by her manipulation but she isn’t a pedo. I think she’s supposed to be a morally grey character, I mean she’s no better than the other who manipulated her in her past life (to varying extremes of course)

    acruxion May 6, 2021 3:35 am
    She isn’t a pedo but she is manipulating him but on the other hand he also has some obsessive tendency, like as soon as he thought of her as someone who understands his intelligence he formed an obsession wit... Spookiboi

    I wouldn’t say “groomed into a tyrant” because he was already gonna become a tyrant with or without Charlize, as mentioned in the memories of her past life. I would probably just say she manipulated him into trusting her so that they can destroy the empire together instead of just Dylan.

    Spookiboi May 6, 2021 5:13 am
    I wouldn’t say “groomed into a tyrant” because he was already gonna become a tyrant with or without Charlize, as mentioned in the memories of her past life. I would probably just say she manipulated him i... acruxion

    The reason why I say that is because she knew everything to make him like her. She knew his deep feelings about his intelligence and used it to manipulate and groom him into being a tyrant. He’s codependent on her and she’s solely using him for her revenge, it doesn’t seem like she even views him as person outside of her quest for revenge.But I totally agree with the manipulation part!

    acruxion May 6, 2021 10:07 am
    The reason why I say that is because she knew everything to make him like her. She knew his deep feelings about his intelligence and used it to manipulate and groom him into being a tyrant. He’s codependent o... Spookiboi

    she did train him into becoming a better fighter, but grooming him into a tyrant would mean that she had to instill her ideologies on someone who wasn’t supposed to be a tyrant, but did because of her influence. However, Dylan already plans on becoming a tyrant even before Charlize came. That’s why she is using him as a tool for revenge