You are absolutely right... To be honest I was really shocked that there are so many people thinking that Asaichi 'got what he deserved'. It's not even an eye for an eye, it's just an inhuman treatment. It's not without reason that laws of democratic countries prevent using torture and rape as a form of a punishment. 'Yoru To Asa No Uta' is just a fictional story, but I believe that in this case people's reactions reflect their views in a real life.
Hmm for the sake of intellectual discussion I would have to disagree on that. But first Im just gonna say I havent read this one yet cause from the looks of it I wouldnt like this type of manga, but I did read the extra and general comments so I have an idea on whats going on.
That being the case torture isnt something that should be avoided, hell its not even inhuman in my opinion. In a sense torture is a form of extreme punishment so i dont see whats wrong with it.
Go search up on google "Is torture ever justified?" The only time it is /arguably/ justified is when they need to obtain serious information from terrorists on behalf of other people's lives. (Nowadays the torture method we use for this purpose is waterboarding.) Torture should not be used for punishment because there is nothing ethical about it. We put dangerous people behind bars or put them to death sentence. That is serves the purpose and is enough. Some people may even argue the death sentence should not be used because there are many stories of people who were put to the death sentence and were eventually revealed innocent. Take a moment to realise how bad that person must have felt. It would make you go insane. There is no need to torture them. Have you seen the way they used to torture people?
There's a reason we have stopped doing that. Growing bamboo through someone's body, making people stand on top of fire and have their legs burn before their very eyes, please tell me how that is not inhuman? Torture used for punishment or retribution is pure sadism. There is no justice in it. And you know how crimes are these days, people are often misunderstood or framed. To put someone innocent through such a horrible experience such as torture, I don't think you understand how heavy torture is. It's a form to make people suffer. Which is unreasonable.
There is always a chance that the person experiencing torture may be innocent. There is almost no way to know for certainty that they are NOT innocent. In the case of waterboarding, how do you think this would play out? Waterboarding is used to force information out of victims. Basically, the torture will not stop unless you confess. What is the person was innocent? They’d have to lie about doing bad things they haven’t done just to make the torture stop. That is one reason why we should never use torture. I could keep going, but I don’t need to be the one to explain it. I used the case of innocent people to more effectively explain it, but even people who have done crimes do not deserve torture.
Totally agree with you.
Although I felt an impact to the 5th chapter, the comments were even worse. The fact that anyone can see a fictional scenario where someone gets kidnapped, beaten up, raped, almost permanently crippled, and forced to drink someone's piss in order to avoid being crippled and think "Well, they deserved it", is absolutely disturbing. It borders the line of sociopathy.
But then again, I like Harada works because of the fact it shows accurately how some people can be twisted in such away to think something like this is acceptable, even the readers of her stories.
But I just wanna say something. Before that, lemme clarify It is completely fine for Harada to use that torture scene in her story because it’s used to make an extreme effect (like it did on me), and it’s not saying torture is acceptable or any other kind of justification,
but I’ve seen more than one comment here.. along the lines of “Asaichi deserved it.” and I’ll use this opportunity to tell anyone who thinks in the same way, first that I hope they would never, ever think in that fashion if this were real life. No, even if it is fiction, that line of thought is dangerous enough.
Nobody, I repeat /nobody/ for the purposes of revenge, punishment, or establishing fear, should ever be subject to something as inhumane as torture. Nobody deserves torture. Torture is going beyond death. There is no ethical purpose to torture. Not even a serial killer or rapist deserves torture.