this was rape lol

karrot May 2, 2021 9:52 pm

Genuinely concerning how many people are arguing this wasn't rape... I can't speak for other countries, but if you're American, by American standards this is definitely rape. It doesn't matter that they were both drunk, or that they liked each other, it's still rape. What makes this even worse is that because this is a flashback from Hwan's perspective, we know that he remembers this happening. However, because this was never brought up earlier in the story its pretty safe to say that Chiwoo doesn't remember, which is a testament to how inebriated he was. It literally doesn't matter that they liked each other or that Chiwoo appeared to enjoy it. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in the US most instances of rape occur between close friends and partners than complete strangers. Maybe I'm wrong for applying American laws to a South Korean work, as I have no idea what the laws regarding consent are over there, but Chiwoo could not consent as he wasn't in his right mind. It does not matter that Hwan couldn't consent either because he's the one initiating, him being drunk does not make this not rape. Anyways, I'm not saying it bothered me, but I think it's 100% valid for people to have been disturbed by this especially since he seems to be endgame.

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    moon May 2, 2021 10:04 pm

    South Korea had a case where someone claimed being drunk as a defense. They raped a child and used to fact that they were drunk to lessen their sentence, and well it worked because being drunk (at least during his sentencing) is/was by law a defense. So yeah its a little iffy on how rape and alcohol works in SK.

    karrot May 2, 2021 10:07 pm
    South Korea had a case where someone claimed being drunk as a defense. They raped a child and used to fact that they were drunk to lessen their sentence, and well it worked because being drunk (at least during ... moon

    That’s pretty disgusting, thank god he was still convicted though. I’ll never understand how being drunk is seen a real defense for shit like this.

    70300 May 2, 2021 10:25 pm
    That’s pretty disgusting, thank god he was still convicted though. I’ll never understand how being drunk is seen a real defense for shit like this. karrot

    Unfortunately, he was released in December last year and now lives less than a mile away from the victim. Rape cases are extremely light in Korea. (This was the Cho Doo-soon case).

    Emmie May 2, 2021 10:44 pm
    Unfortunately, he was released in December last year and now lives less than a mile away from the victim. Rape cases are extremely light in Korea. (This was the Cho Doo-soon case). 70300

    About the American topic, although its common between partners and friends its usually either dub-con, abuse, or they cant take a hint. As someone who was almost raped by my little brothers tutor as a kid and who's mother is a rape victim, it depends on the person, the situation, and what state/city your in. The averages can always change. If that helps at all @karrot

    Emmie May 2, 2021 10:46 pm

    I don't know if that helped or not (hopefully it did in some way)