I'm a bit confused here

Diyah April 29, 2021 10:51 pm

are people actually defending Rosie's actions??? its pretty clear these people (the imperial family) know that what they are doing is wrong. You can see it from their actions. Rosie had a bad look on her face when Eve was nice to the silver haired knight. she knows what she is doing is wrong. AND I *KNOW* YA'LL ARENT EXCUSING FUCKING RAPE. this man did NOT consent. he COULDNT. what Rosie was going to do was inexcusable. BUT, this also does not mean that she cant learn to be a better person. (spoiler: she does)

and please don't bring up the argument that 'its how she was raised' Eve was raised the same way, she's not like that. everyone in the empire knows that what the imperial family is doing is wrong but they are the monarchs so no one can say anything.

Rosie is a bad person RIGHT NOW and if you cant see that then you have some serious thinking to do about what you think the difference between a good person making shitty choices is and an actually shitty person.

Rosie right now knows e x a c t l y what she was going to do and thought nothing wrong of it, in fact she was in full control of her actions. no one is forcing her to be this person. she will l e a r n to be a better person. look at the present, not the future.

you cant keep saying 'oh they WILL be better LATER. ok and??? they ARE a bad person NOW. judge the person on the NOW not the LATER. this is what people stuck in toxic relationships think. please don't be like this, these are troubling thoughts for people to have.


im not hating on her as an over all character from the perspective that I have of her now(ie, the knowledge that she will be a better person later) but I simply do not like her as she is right NOW. Its the same as not liking season 1 zuko because he was just a plain bad person then. I still like zuko, just not when he was an asshole kid who tried to murder people. people like azula, but they dont like what she did. she was a bad person. thats that. you dont excuse shitty actions just because you like them.


god I hope people understand this

Responses
    Mel April 29, 2021 11:00 pm

    Who is defending her I need to talk to them(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I hate how they can simply defend her when she's clearly in the wrong even if she does change it doesn't change the fact that she tried to rape someone and no matter what sort of 'redemption' she has I personally won't like her. We simply can't forget what she tried to do and be like she's a better person now. Well even so, it's not like she didn't do those things.

    Diyah April 30, 2021 8:33 am
    Who is defending her I need to talk to them(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I hate how they can simply defend her when she's clearly in the wrong even if she does change it doesn't change the fact that she tried to rape som... Mel

    yes, this is very much true, in the end, I don't think our ml is going to forgive her either, its mostly going to just be the main character that forgives her and not the guy. Its problematic but oh well, what can we do.

    it really doesn't matter if people change and feel sorry and apologize. sure, great personal development to a decent human being but simply being sorry doesn't mean that their victims should just accept it. the victims are entitled to not forgive them and I don't think people can understand that. Its not enough to just feel sorry and apologies, not with something as big as fucking slavery and rape. you are going to have to live everyday trying to right the wrong that you have done. that's just how it works. accountability works like that. its not a one time thing, its a lifetime thing.

    'don't let the past define you' No. the past is what makes us who we are. you cant just forget it or erase it, its a fundamental part of us.

    if you have done something absolutely unforgivable, news flash, your not gonna be forgiven. this doesn't mean that people cant change it just means that people who make these types of mistakes are going to haunted by them for the rest of their lives. BECAUSE WHAT THEY DID WAS HORRIBLE. DONT FUCKING FORGIVE ANF FORGET RAPISTS. these people are in for a lifetime of repentance for their actions. don't feel bad for people like Rosie. Because they know exactly what they did and just because they feel bad about it later doesn't mean that they magically get to be free of the consequences.

    Rosie will always leave a bad taste in my mouth, even when she gets better simply for the fact that she raped people and murdered her own sister. she isn't psychotic, she is in full control of her mind, she was just a plain bad person. So what if she gets better? she is still a shitty person. not even a lifetime of apologies are going to be enough.

    this obviously doesn't mean that people like her shouldn't become better. they should. but if all they want is to be forgiven and have their crimes forgotten then that's plain not going to happen and it shows that their not really sorry, their sorry that it happened, not sorry that they did this. there is a big line there and if people don't see it then truly, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.