I feel like this story and characters aren't bad but the plot of vengeful father turned ts...

Soseki April 25, 2021 2:08 pm

I feel like this story and characters aren't bad but the plot of vengeful father turned tsundere father has been done before. ALSO... WHY EVEN BOTHER MENTIONING SHE WAS AN ISEKAI.... like this was the fastest plot point to mention only to... never be mentioned again! LOL

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    Jade April 25, 2021 2:57 pm

    Honestly the isekai is literally just to make the misunderstanding worse... Without those scenes of her father throwing her in the shadow room, she'd be significantly less scared of him. Which just makes it even more annoying that he was just protecting her by putting her somewhere nobody but the king and prince have access to and he just never bothered to explain that... Or tell her the prince is coming to rescue her soon so just hang on... I'm a little sick of it tbh

    Shiyai April 25, 2021 3:17 pm

    Basically, she was reincarnated as Juvel. However, she had read the novel about her in her previous life. So, she knew that in the future, her father will send her to prison and Mikhael will hook up with someone else. Upon receiving her past life memories, she decided to not meet her end just like the novel and end things up with Mikhael. And she decided to not trust her father ( hence, all the misunderstanding).....


    Spoiler:
    But actually, the things in the novel already happened and her father actually beg goddess to reverse time to save Juvel.

    leximo April 25, 2021 3:28 pm

    Her father actually loved her even in her past life. She just misunderstood everything he meant or shown

    Soseki April 25, 2021 10:13 pm
    Her father actually loved her even in her past life. She just misunderstood everything he meant or shown leximo

    im saying the perception and portrayal of the father is pretty cliche. There's already a few stories of a father who seeming could careless about the daughter and the daughter in turn has to act super cutesy just because she believes her life is at stake and then it consequently makes the father go insane for more of her cuteness.

    Soseki April 25, 2021 10:21 pm
    Basically, she was reincarnated as Juvel. However, she had read the novel about her in her previous life. So, she knew that in the future, her father will send her to prison and Mikhael will hook up with someon... Shiyai

    Im mostly saying that the story could've just not been an isekai and just had her just return herself. I mean, the girl is still using the original girls memories so.... *shrug*. Plus, she'd still know when she would die, so having a random isekai girl replace her doesn't make a difference.

    Usually the purpose of the isekai is either to have op powers (which I hate personally) or have knowledge from the book the character is in and far surpasses what the original body would know.

    leximo April 26, 2021 4:06 am
    Im mostly saying that the story could've just not been an isekai and just had her just return herself. I mean, the girl is still using the original girls memories so.... *shrug*. Plus, she'd still know when she... Soseki

    I agree cuz i was honestly just thinking that she turned back in time not she got iskaied or smth like that. Besides some say that her father talked to a mage or smth and turned back time soo that part confused me when ppl say it is isekai so in ma head i think she just went back in time

    Shiyai April 26, 2021 5:45 am
    Im mostly saying that the story could've just not been an isekai and just had her just return herself. I mean, the girl is still using the original girls memories so.... *shrug*. Plus, she'd still know when she... Soseki

    Like I said, she was not transmigrated. She was reincarnated as Juvel. There's no original girl. She is the girl.

    Soseki April 26, 2021 6:23 am
    Like I said, she was not transmigrated. She was reincarnated as Juvel. There's no original girl. She is the girl. Shiyai

    transmigration is just a soul going into a new body... usually in another world. The no-named girl BECAME Juvel. Im argung that there's no NEED for a girl to inhabit Juvel's body, the story could've just reused Juvel herself and let her redo her life.

    Shiyai April 26, 2021 6:41 am
    transmigration is just a soul going into a new body... usually in another world. The no-named girl BECAME Juvel. Im argung that there's no NEED for a girl to inhabit Juvel's body, the story could've just reused... Soseki

    That's why I'm arguing. In this case, there's no named girl. It's all Juvel all along

    Soseki April 26, 2021 9:34 am
    That's why I'm arguing. In this case, there's no named girl. It's all Juvel all along Shiyai

    I legit had to go look up to make sure I wasn't crazy... so Chapter two, she states she "transmigrated" as Juvelia. Juvelia existed as a character in a book with her own characteristics. I do understand the word play is a bit... vague because it says she "remembered her past life 2 years into her relationship"

    considering the spoilers I think the process went as such:
    - OG Juvelia dies -> her soul passes -> her dad rewinds her time -> Nameless girl's soul transmigrates into Juvelia -> she remembers her past life

    Shiyai April 26, 2021 3:11 pm

    From what I understood, the word transmigrated was wrongly put there. Because she said she remembered.
    Usually transmigrated person will refer to the original body as the third person. But she never did that. And usually, whenever happened, she will can complain to her 'original body' like, "why on earth you did that Juvel?!" or "Wow, Juvel's father looks really young" or something... And it will always be "when I woke up, I was in Juvel's body"

    All her monologue is all referring to herself and her past silly action. So yeah ..I think the word transmigrated was wrongly put there.

    And because I had read the novel before reading this webtoon . Haha
    And the novel never mention about transmigrated.

    Soseki April 26, 2021 3:43 pm
    From what I understood, the word transmigrated was wrongly put there. Because she said she remembered. Usually transmigrated person will refer to the original body as the third person. But she never did that. A... Shiyai

    I haven't read the novel, but it's clear it's still an isekai, they mention Juvelia being the villain of the story that the nameless girl read. Even if the light novel had zero details about the story involving transmigration, this manhwa is clearly an "isekai".

    I couldn't say for sure if the base story truly is an isekai because I only know the manhwa version, BUT it's also entirely possible the manhwa version was adapted to be an isekai... just to be labeled among the other isekais. It would clear up a bit of the inconsistencies I had with this story.

    Regardless, I just read this kinds of stories as dirty pleasure books. They're low effort thinking books... or at least just low enough that I'll skim past inconsistencies. If it builds up too many I'd just drop it, because these stories are a dime a dozen. They pop up like weeds and the majority of the difference is just the art.

    Shiyai April 26, 2021 4:10 pm
    I haven't read the novel, but it's clear it's still an isekai, they mention Juvelia being the villain of the story that the nameless girl read. Even if the light novel had zero details about the story involving... Soseki

    Well...if you're so adamant about that, suit yourself I think