What are y'all calling character development?

_uwu_senpai April 21, 2021 4:52 pm

What are y'all calling character development? This is lousy writing and the only way Seungho can get redeemed is giving Na-Kyum his freedom and FUCKING GO TO JAIL!
I'm not sure... you realise he did kill someone??? And rape and abuse this dude for like..months? Even now he is being sweet but still predatious and threatening, asking Na-Kyum not to anger him by not refusing him..just in a nicer way? Wth is wrong with y'all. Okay but just imagine. Close your eyes and picture yourself in Na-Kyum's place ..like for real. Does it matter if your rapist is hot? Imagine being that destroyed and the same person that do that to you now gets nice all of a sudden cause whatever his reasons are and now wants to properly date you. I mean..just picture it for a second...wtf this should not be encouraged. Or I hope you do discern reality from fiction even tho fiction should not be romanticising bs. Y'all need therapy if you think this is okay. What's wrong with this generation...even tho I'm part of it. I just started this cause I thought it would be some wholesome Enemies to lovers but boooooooy was I wrong. Anyways I'm just gonna stick around hoping Seungho gets what he deserves and Na-Kyum is cured from his Stockholm Syndrome.

Responses
    Danae April 22, 2021 9:32 pm
    Sorry, I hijacked your post. Zarathustra

    I didn't get it what you meant until I refreshed it, lol.
    No worries, I was done anyways. Some people just like to feel superior to others and shaming readers in stories like these is their fixes. Imagine reading something you hate it, be unable to give up and then your only pleasure is to demean other readers for their joy, using of course, some kind of self awarded moral superiority and role of 'educator' of the sinners.
    I guess I will never relate to picking something I abhor, pretending that I don't know what I am reading ( I really can't with the 'I had no idea this was rape plot' , yeah, right) and then posting a jerk condescending educative post to criticize other people who are enjoying something. I would feel miserable if my validation depended on shaming adults for their fiction.
    This is not criticism, it's need for self validation by diminishing other people.
    Good Luck with the shamers and their apologists. :)

    michi April 23, 2021 4:21 am

    What's wrong with y'all?
    What we did was take the context into consideration? The manwha takes place in the Joseon dynasty and Seungho is of high birth.
    Throughout the story this is constantly referenced? The widely-accepted morals and social standing in this time were not the same as it now in 21st century Korea.

    And yeah, while that excuses the killing in a social context, it does not excuse his actions morally.
    Also fiction shouldn't romanticize BS????? That's what its all about. Guess what. Magic is BS- it's not real. Meeting your fated pair? Not real.
    Even a relationship with 0 problems is BS BECAUSE it's not real.
    Fiction is a way to divulge in one's BS fantasies.

    Also stockholm? The chances of this being stockholm are exceedingly rare. the vast majority of captives and victims don't develop stockholm. And because this is a depraved romance, I'm gonna go say I doubt it.

    _uwu_senpai April 23, 2021 9:59 am

    All the butthurt in the comments are those who wanted Sangwoo and Yoonbum to be together. Anyways any GOOD Enemies to lovers/friends to recommend? BL or not

    Zarathustra April 23, 2021 1:00 pm
    All the butthurt in the comments are those who wanted Sangwoo and Yoonbum to be together. Anyways any GOOD Enemies to lovers/friends to recommend? BL or not _uwu_senpai

    This comment is ironic. You choose to read a rape plot trope. Pretends you never knew that it was a rape plot trope even though it is pretty clear even more with the author promotion of the ship ... then when you don't get the magical wishful story you made up in your head you post a condescending, asshole post putting down the other people who are enjoying the story.
    Butt hurt: someone who doesn't get what they want and then find that the only pleasure is to try to diminish the enjoyment of other people by trying to make them feel guilt or wrong or inferior.
    If you were serious about 'recommendations', you would post on the main page of mangago that has bigger visibility and the chance of people with the same taste as yours to see your post.
    Grow the fuck up and learn to take responsibility for the kind of stories you choose to read next time. If you have a hard time figuring out if a story is a rape plot trope and POTN couldn't be more explicit with the red flags, there is not much to be taught. If it affects you so much that you feel the need to post this kind of disrespectful posts, better protect yourself staying away from any stories that depicts rape just to be safe,
    If you haven't figure out at chapter 76 what POTN is, you probably will start another one and do the same.

    michi April 23, 2021 4:11 pm
    All the butthurt in the comments are those who wanted Sangwoo and Yoonbum to be together. Anyways any GOOD Enemies to lovers/friends to recommend? BL or not _uwu_senpai

    You can read Checkmate (TAN)? They are in the process of turning from enemies to allies? They're relationship is kinda ambiguous but I just love how one of them tries so desperately bring them down!

    Also reminiscence Adonis seems to be goes the romance path if that's what you want.


    Also, as a butt hurt person, I never wanted Sangwoo and Bum to be together, the author depicted their relationship in a way that made the ending predictable. They both had too many mental obstacles to become. It was really tragic.

    MangaSanctuary October 11, 2023 1:53 pm
    What's wrong with y'all?What we did was take the context into consideration? The manwha takes place in the Joseon dynasty and Seungho is of high birth. Throughout the story this is constantly referenced? The wi... michi

    If there is a way to make your reply as *top comment* I would like to see it being the most visible.
    I think what you present here, that this story is an historical one, is the most important component of this story, and this is what makes this one valuable and different from. Author also deserves some recognition because they've drawn themselves the historical environmement/sceneries instead of resorting to machine's work, which is not an easy task.

    To reply to OP:
    Of course, what has done Seungho like killing that poor spy (chap1) to the way he treats his servants, to how he treats even other nobles... is absolutely not acceptable (fiction, IRL), but HERE, since it's a historical BL depicting how lived the nobles from that era etc, it was expected we'll be shown some crazy shits done by the nobles to people of lesser status, even people from the same status... The crimes of the nobles remain unpunished because nobles had absolute rights on the life of lesser status persons.
    It was a time where there was not notion of human rights, no way to punish nobles because they're above everyone.
    Plus, the Korean's history from that time paints some weird costoms and beliefs that would upset our stomac, but the way Europeen people lived two centuries ago was also harsh and unequal.
    I think that if you're so upset and feel unsatisfied about the story and ML's character growth, that's because you forgot or miss that important aspect, which is so important to take in consideration in order see things through another lense, and maybe even appreciate the story knowing the conditions of living of people from that time (?). The fact that such character as Seungho can grow to love and care for someone like Nakyung through the story, is already a good thing. Now it's fine if you find that the way author "put them together" is not satisfying for you or it is lacking, it's really fine, since it's a smutty Yaoi.

    TBH I do like the concept (a Lord, manwhore, falling in love with a painter from really low status...), but I do find some plotholes to the writng and since it's too focused on the smut I admit I lose interest after. a moment...

    It's ok for you to express your anger; we all do this time to time. I just hope you consider all the aspects of that story, for you to not regret in case you may miss something.