Just because you have a reason of why you acted a certain way doesn't excuse you or doesn'...

Llama April 7, 2021 11:46 am

Just because you have a reason of why you acted a certain way doesn't excuse you or doesn't make that action reasonable.
Like I understand why hana acted the way she did but I still dislike her. I disliked her even in the last chapter cause the author just skipped everything on how hana repented and asked for forgiveness. I love that she changed into a better person but that's it. I still think she's the antagonist of this story

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    chrollospubes April 7, 2021 12:08 pm

    can’t agree more tbh, and it hurts me to know people like her exists

    JulyInAugust April 7, 2021 12:43 pm

    But then what would have been a good way to repent ? She regrets it and she feel terrible about it, she ask for forgiveness and it was given to her. That's how things work, if the people concerned are okay with forgiving and moving on then that's how it should be.

    But also there's an interesting psychological thing going on where since she isn't the main character her struggles are mostly ignored by the readers and she is hated for making terrible mistakes, even though she regrets it, because the pain she inflicted seems greater than the pain she received. The reader compare her suffering to Jun's effectively putting them in competition and think of her poorly, treating her exactly like the grandmother and parents did and which put her in this mental state to begin with. And I find this really interesting.

    Mai chan April 7, 2021 3:41 pm
    But then what would have been a good way to repent ? She regrets it and she feel terrible about it, she ask for forgiveness and it was given to her. That's how things work, if the people concerned are okay with... JulyInAugust

    She was a bad person period what if jun died that day, for what? Because she was petty, selfish and jealous she is not a child she was 25 and a teacher, it's great that she had character development but I wouldn't have forgive her if I were jun..

    JulyInAugust April 7, 2021 5:29 pm
    She was a bad person period what if jun died that day, for what? Because she was petty, selfish and jealous she is not a child she was 25 and a teacher, it's great that she had character development but I would... Mai chan

    Well I can tell you never spend around 20 years of your life being treated as inferior to your sibling and neglected by your family, causing depression and insecurities deeply rooted in your whole childhood all because a younger sibling was born.

    imnotyourjoy April 7, 2021 5:30 pm
    But then what would have been a good way to repent ? She regrets it and she feel terrible about it, she ask for forgiveness and it was given to her. That's how things work, if the people concerned are okay with... JulyInAugust

    i like your perspective but honestly it still doesn't excuse hana for the actions she has done nor does justify it. We all have a reason for doing a certain action and that's true, inferiority is something that I struggle too at times but I haven't got to the point that I would put someone down to the point that they'd run away from home or want to disappear (I know that we have different experiences nor do I wanna compare, im just sharing my experiences).

    I still don't tolerate hana's action just because she has regretted it already because there's still that pang or that pain especially when you relate to Jun who's always felt that he had no outlet nor person to rely on with this matter (excluding rin)

    and in conclusions, hana's a bitch

    Llama April 7, 2021 6:57 pm
    But then what would have been a good way to repent ? She regrets it and she feel terrible about it, she ask for forgiveness and it was given to her. That's how things work, if the people concerned are okay with... JulyInAugust

    She changed into a better person. I agree. I love her for that. But, the author didn't show her journey at all. She just cried and apologized to her mom. I saw nothing else from her side. And at the end you can't blame me for not liking her because she doesn't deserve it. I get that she has be neglected a lot by her parents and especially her grandmother ( haye that bitch) but does that justify Jun almost dying? What did Jun do to be treated like that? He was outed against his will, he was told that he was disgusting just because he liked the same sex. I understand why hana did what she did but that doesn't make her innocent or right.

    Mai chan April 8, 2021 2:56 am
    Well I can tell you never spend around 20 years of your life being treated as inferior to your sibling and neglected by your family, causing depression and insecurities deeply rooted in your whole childhood all... JulyInAugust

    Actually my grandmother has preferred me over my brother, it doesn't make me sabotage my brother or ruin his life cuz I love him as much as my grandmother and to think she hated her innocent brother as an adult is just pathetic . Don't excuse her just because she was abused as a child and I am pretty sure her mom and dad love her but she chose to ignore that hell even her brother whom she hated so much loves her so STOP JUSTIFYING HER ACTIONS

    JulyInAugust April 9, 2021 8:16 pm
    Actually my grandmother has preferred me over my brother, it doesn't make me sabotage my brother or ruin his life cuz I love him as much as my grandmother and to think she hated her innocent brother as an adult... Mai chan

    Was your grandmother the one (and only one) who raised you ? Because you can't compare being neglected by one family member to being neglected by your parents/guardians that's not the same thing at all.
    Do you have any idea what it feel like to never be treated like a child nor an adult ? Do you know what it's like to have everyone around you force you to be independent and alone then praise you for being mature because you're able to get by on your own ? Do you know what it's like to see your sibling effortlessly get everything you fail to obtain ? Have you experienced the loneliness of struggling all alone as a child because no one would listen ?
    There's a big difference between loving someone and making them feel loved. Love doesn't matter if you make the loved one feel worthless.
    So lucky for you if you weren't starved for love but not everyone need the same thing and by consequences not everyone can overcome the same thing.

    Of course it doesn't excuse her actions, it just explains them, her regrets and efforts in making it up to the ones she hurt does. So your hate for her is what have no justification.

    imnotyourjoy April 9, 2021 8:39 pm
    Was your grandmother the one (and only one) who raised you ? Because you can't compare being neglected by one family member to being neglected by your parents/guardians that's not the same thing at all.Do you h... JulyInAugust

    bro u gotta chill :/ i admit we shouldn't compare our experiences to others and we have other opinions or perspectives in life but dude you were lowkey gaslighting the person, he/she is just sharing their experience, you can't tell them "well i can tell that you never spend around 20 years of your life being treated as inferior to your sibling and neglected by your family..." and gaslight their experience by making them feel like hana's pain was deeper than theirs. I agree with your opinion that we weren't able to see Hana's struggle that much because she's just the side character but that doesn't justify nor is it an excuse to what she did.

    I agree with your side but u don't have to make that person feel bad when they just shared their experience :(( lets just spread positivity here ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Llama April 10, 2021 4:35 am
    Was your grandmother the one (and only one) who raised you ? Because you can't compare being neglected by one family member to being neglected by your parents/guardians that's not the same thing at all.Do you h... JulyInAugust

    You kinda crossed the line here.
    Stop gaslighting bro. Just because hana had it "worse" doesn't mean that Mai chan's experience and suffering was less than her. She tried to share her experience because she somewhat related to Hana and her situation.
    EVEN THEN, you're telling me that Jun should suffer because of what their parents and grandparents did? So he deserves to be outed just because Hana was neglected? Do you even realize what you're saying. Like I said I understand why Hana and anyone would do this BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT
    My main problem is that Hana didn't like that Jun was happy and sabotaged everything. Instead of trying to fight with her parents and grandparents and calling them out she made Jun's life hell and that's unacceptable. He's fucking 19 years old bro and she told him that he was disgusting cause he's gay and should try having sex with girls??!! Man fuck her

    chrollospubes April 10, 2021 5:29 am

    damn

    Mai chan April 10, 2021 9:30 am
    Was your grandmother the one (and only one) who raised you ? Because you can't compare being neglected by one family member to being neglected by your parents/guardians that's not the same thing at all.Do you h... JulyInAugust

    You know everyone have felt like this in their life even if they have good family. I dunno where you are from but i am from India ,people here don't give that much importance on emotions yk my mom thinks I should only think about my studies and nothing else. I remember crying myself to sleep every night in 8 9 th grade, crying about every unimportant thing. I was lonely and confused. There was a phase when my big bro hated everyone(wouldn't talk to me) , I couldn't hate him then and I couldn't hate him now . You really think anything can justify her trying to harm innocent jun, her baby brother . What she did has consequences, she should have think logically instead of with emotions. When you go through some abuse you should see it to yourself that you don't become the abuser

    imnotyourjoy April 10, 2021 12:32 pm
    You know everyone have felt like this in their life even if they have good family. I dunno where you are from but i am from India ,people here don't give that much importance on emotions yk my mom thinks I shou... Mai chan

    hello mai chan, i hope i understand that what you experience was rough and you don't deserve that, nobody does. I want to remind you that you're strong and kind. I hope you have a good day bestie and continue to go through life with a smile.

    now lets end this conversation on a positive note, spread peace everyone ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    imnotyourjoy April 10, 2021 12:33 pm
    hello mai chan, i hope i understand that what you experience was rough and you don't deserve that, nobody does. I want to remind you that you're strong and kind. I hope you have a good day bestie and continue t... imnotyourjoy

    ***you, sorry that was supposed to be a u but i clicked i HAHSHAHHSHA

    imnotyourjoy April 10, 2021 12:34 pm
    ***you, sorry that was supposed to be a u but i clicked i HAHSHAHHSHA imnotyourjoy

    omg the i hope was wrong gosh (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 why cant mangago have an edit button HAHSHHAHAHA

    Llama April 10, 2021 1:11 pm
    You know everyone have felt like this in their life even if they have good family. I dunno where you are from but i am from India ,people here don't give that much importance on emotions yk my mom thinks I shou... Mai chan

    I understand, I'm from India too and I have a big brother. He's the favourite child lol and my parents are very controlling so I get you. Me and my brother used to be really close but now we don't even say hello to each other.

    Mai chan April 10, 2021 1:44 pm
    hello mai chan, i hope i understand that what you experience was rough and you don't deserve that, nobody does. I want to remind you that you're strong and kind. I hope you have a good day bestie and continue t... imnotyourjoy

    Thank you very much for your kind words. I am at much better place now. My relationship with my brother has also improved, we talk about life our goal our love life (or lack thereof) , and I love my mom the most, as I grow older I understand her more and she's gotten a lot friendly and we share things. Reading helps a lot too cuz I don't overthink anymore, my head is like filled with fantasies, adventures, romances okay I will not bore you anymore . Have a great day buddy and you made me smile so thanks for that also

    Mai chan April 10, 2021 1:50 pm
    I understand, I'm from India too and I have a big brother. He's the favourite child lol and my parents are very controlling so I get you. Me and my brother used to be really close but now we don't even say hell... Llama

    I hope you are okay bud, controlling parents really sucks and when you try to make a point they say you are being rude . Trying being patient with them maybe they change, it worked with my mom. Maybe you should try talking with your bro, it's helps a lot yk it's like having a best friend.. I really hope it gets better for you take care and stay safe