I'm getting really off vibes from this manga, like he's saying no all the time and it feel...

Ann April 7, 2021 11:03 am

I'm getting really off vibes from this manga, like he's saying no all the time and it feels like a r@pe and I know I can just drop this but I can also share my opinion here

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    Catneki April 7, 2021 11:14 am

    That’s like in every manga/manhwa lolol

    For Korean/Japanese saying no during sex is common and not really meant to be taken as actual “no”.

    pyscho.simp April 7, 2021 11:44 am
    That’s like in every manga/manhwa lololFor Korean/Japanese saying no during sex is common and not really meant to be taken as actual “no”. Catneki

    it's when he says 'i dont like it' or 'i dont want you' that makes me the most uncomfortable tho

    Thefanatic April 7, 2021 12:21 pm
    it's when he says 'i dont like it' or 'i dont want you' that makes me the most uncomfortable tho pyscho.simp

    I completely agree, I don't like it when his requests are just ignored and seen as cute.

    Vro April 7, 2021 3:56 pm

    In Japan/Korea "no" usually means "yes" in a sexual situation. They call it "no" that express fondness. The same goes to stop/i don't like it/i can't anymore. In a boy-girl relationship, this usually happens because the girl is too shy to express herself enjoying that moment, or even think what a pervert she is doing these things. But I think they apply the same thing to yaoi manga/manhwa, especially if the uke is not the power bottom type. I know it could be confusing to people with different cultures, especially westerner, cause they usually just say "oh yes yes yes". But different cultures, different meaning I guess. And we probably can see the situation to judge what kind of "no" the uke means, real no or "yes" no.

    Vro April 7, 2021 4:34 pm
    I completely agree, I don't like it when his requests are just ignored and seen as cute. Thefanatic

    "No" "I don't like" "I can't" basically mean keep going, don't stop. Japan/Korea shame culture makes them feel shameful doing certain things, one of it is being seen naked by someone else (even though it's their husband/wife) or having sex. By saying no, or denying things while doing sex, it's like them reminding themselves that yes this is shameful act, even though I like it. And yes the partner usually find it cute or it's like pouring oil to fire, cause they understand the context. One of my friend got a japanese girl that say those things, but when he's planning to stop the girl is the one getting more aggressive touching etc. At the end she kinda explained it to him that it's just how they react.

    Ann April 7, 2021 5:59 pm

    Thanks for explaining ( ꈍᴗꈍ) i guess I can look at them differently now, I mean it still makes me kinda uneasy but I'm relieved that it's just a culture aspect

    HarleyQRaven April 7, 2021 10:59 pm
    "No" "I don't like" "I can't" basically mean keep going, don't stop. Japan/Korea shame culture makes them feel shameful doing certain things, one of it is being seen naked by someone else (even though it's thei... Vro

    You should really post this in a blog or as a how to when reading these types of comics. Even in male/female Asian comics, the FL will do exactly the same thing and people start literally bold capping RAPE in the comments. It really is a cultural thing which many of us have tried to explain. Sometimes, the readers are simply too young to read comics of this nature.

    HarleyQRaven April 7, 2021 11:02 pm
    Thanks for explaining ( ꈍᴗꈍ) i guess I can look at them differently now, I mean it still makes me kinda uneasy but I'm relieved that it's just a culture aspect Ann

    Can you please explain to others...what you just learned? We need more people to explain this and more people who are receptive understanding like you. Thanks

    Adam April 7, 2021 11:32 pm
    You should really post this in a blog or as a how to when reading these types of comics. Even in male/female Asian comics, the FL will do exactly the same thing and people start literally bold capping RAPE in t... HarleyQRaven

    But even if you know that, how do you actually differentiate? Let’s not pretend like those countries don’t have huge issues with rape. What’s the cultural way of refusing and revoking consent during sex? How do Japanese/Korean people say “no” and be taken seriously? It also sounds like a culture that encourages slut shaming, if women who voice their enthusiasm during sex are seen as strange and improper.

    Vro April 8, 2021 3:34 am
    But even if you know that, how do you actually differentiate? Let’s not pretend like those countries don’t have huge issues with rape. What’s the cultural way of refusing and revoking consent during sex? ... Adam

    Well those countries are ashamed of a lot of things, you get bad grade is shameful, you squat on stairs is shameful, you do this you do that is shameful. But those shame and honor traits that makes the country More orderly compared to a more "free" countries. I feel the safest as a woman while I was studying in Japan. In real life you can differentiate by the expression, the tone of voice, or the amount of resistance. There are many factors where any normal person should be able to differentiate it. Like humans have brain, just because there generally no means yes, doesn't mean they should ignore other signs that emphasize the opposite. Just judge by the situation. In manga/manhwa you probably can see it by how it's drawn. How the story goes before this particular scene. What is the character's relationship etc.

    Vro April 8, 2021 3:47 am
    You should really post this in a blog or as a how to when reading these types of comics. Even in male/female Asian comics, the FL will do exactly the same thing and people start literally bold capping RAPE in t... HarleyQRaven

    Yeah this kind of situation really is tiring XD. I think even if I wrote it in a full detailed paragraph, there would still be a lot of people that deny it or cannot comprehend it. They tend to forget manga/manhwa are based on different cultures that could be a 180° compared to theirs.

    Ann April 8, 2021 9:49 am
    Can you please explain to others...what you just learned? We need more people to explain this and more people who are receptive understanding like you. Thanks HarleyQRaven

    Sure I'll try if get a chance