It looked like the entire premise was for them to be a switch couple, but of course they w...

It'sNotJustABoulder March 10, 2021 11:41 pm

It looked like the entire premise was for them to be a switch couple, but of course they weren't because God forbid we actually have any realistic representation of gay relationships that might offend the straight fujoshis who want to see heteronormative interactions. The baby was cute. The mom should have been excommunicated. I said what I said.

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    leypugs March 17, 2021 11:48 pm

    I’m pretty sure yaoi authors all the way from japan don’t care one bit about “offending” anyone by not drawing... *checks notes* switch. Like they actually don’t care about what people think that’s what artists do

    It'sNotJustABoulder March 18, 2021 2:03 am
    I’m pretty sure yaoi authors all the way from japan don’t care one bit about “offending” anyone by not drawing... *checks notes* switch. Like they actually don’t care about what people think that’s ... leypugs

    And I don't think if they care or not is in any way relevant to whether their work is worthy of criticism. Also, I don't think most creators have the amount of freedom to create, that you think they have.

    leypugs March 18, 2021 11:25 am
    And I don't think if they care or not is in any way relevant to whether their work is worthy of criticism. Also, I don't think most creators have the amount of freedom to create, that you think they have. It'sNotJustABoulder

    You said they can’t draw bc people get offended. That’s not criticism cause it’s just a false statement about the conditions of the work, it’s criticism when you judge a quality of an art work, so saying you wanted switch is also just an opinion, but that’s another story

    leypugs March 18, 2021 11:31 am
    And I don't think if they care or not is in any way relevant to whether their work is worthy of criticism. Also, I don't think most creators have the amount of freedom to create, that you think they have. It'sNotJustABoulder

    Which btw I also was expecting to see a switch and that’s what actually happened even tho it ended short. They agreed to let the other partner have the kid.

    It'sNotJustABoulder March 18, 2021 2:55 pm
    You said they can’t draw bc people get offended. That’s not criticism cause it’s just a false statement about the conditions of the work, it’s criticism when you judge a quality of an art work, so sayin... leypugs

    Bad wording on my part but the god forbid comment was referring to the genre in general but wasn't a targeted attack on this author, it also doesn't mean it was their choice since they have editors and sometimes teams that might make them change things, I still think my criticism about yaoi not having accurate representations of mlm relationships is fair.

    leypugs March 18, 2021 7:09 pm

    Sure. Independent from this conversation, do you expect a realistic representation of real life in any kind of genre, especially romance?

    It'sNotJustABoulder March 18, 2021 8:42 pm
    Sure. Independent from this conversation, do you expect a realistic representation of real life in any kind of genre, especially romance? leypugs

    Depends on what part you're referring to. I don't expect to see an enema in bl the same way that I don't expect to see periods in hetero romance (sometimes there's a fleeting mention). But, my objection has more to do with how they're portrayed to fit a certain narrative, it would be like portraying characters of other ethnicities using exclusively stereotypes, something that would understandably rub people the wrong way.

    leypugs March 18, 2021 9:11 pm
    Depends on what part you're referring to. I don't expect to see an enema in bl the same way that I don't expect to see periods in hetero romance (sometimes there's a fleeting mention). But, my objection has mor... It'sNotJustABoulder

    Oh ok. I actually had written more about realism part explaining a bit more about how I have a clear line between fictional worlds and real life and the reason I consume them was bc it had nothing to do with real life but somehow it cut the rest of the reply. Whatever have a good day

    leypugs March 18, 2021 9:13 pm
    Depends on what part you're referring to. I don't expect to see an enema in bl the same way that I don't expect to see periods in hetero romance (sometimes there's a fleeting mention). But, my objection has mor... It'sNotJustABoulder

    Don’t get me wrong I appreciate the answer

    Dabri April 7, 2021 8:23 am

    Omg this is the longest discussion on a comment I have ever seen Lol

    cutieukebae April 9, 2021 2:12 pm

    If you wanna see a switch couple..make a manga make the characters switch and leave it alone..”complain abt something they won’t change

    It'sNotJustABoulder April 9, 2021 5:05 pm

    Omg, it seems like I've triggered exactly the people that I was complaining that creators try not to trigger, who would have thought, lmao

    cutieukebae April 9, 2021 5:08 pm
    Omg, it seems like I've triggered exactly the people that I was complaining that creators try not to trigger, who would have thought, lmao It'sNotJustABoulder

    It seems like this manga triggered just the person making a post about it! Who wouldn’t thought.

    It'sNotJustABoulder April 9, 2021 5:12 pm
    It seems like this manga triggered just the person making a post about it! Who wouldn’t thought. cutieukebae

    *would've

    cutieukebae April 10, 2021 9:41 am

    Wouldn’t*

    It'sNotJustABoulder April 10, 2021 11:18 am
    Wouldn’t* cutieukebae

    **wouldn't think (which would make no sense in that sentence) or wouldn't have thought

    cutieukebae April 10, 2021 2:38 pm
    **wouldn't think (which would make no sense in that sentence) or wouldn't have thought It'sNotJustABoulder

    Wouldn’t makes sense in that sentence because I wrote it.

    yuhi_sama April 22, 2021 8:23 pm

    Yk that not all gay people switch right?i m gay but i m a bottom and having to put my hand in someone s hole honnestly disgust me so i ll probably never switch

    cutieukebae April 22, 2021 8:44 pm
    Yk that not all gay people switch right?i m gay but i m a bottom and having to put my hand in someone s hole honnestly disgust me so i ll probably never switch yuhi_sama

    Right this person is spreading a false narrative like all sexual fluent couples switch, that isn’t very realistic...this has nothing to do with heterosexuals so idk why they brung them up

    It'sNotJustABoulder April 22, 2021 10:28 pm
    Right this person is spreading a false narrative like all sexual fluent couples switch, that isn’t very realistic...this has nothing to do with heterosexuals so idk why they brung them up cutieukebae

    It doesn't have with sexual fluency but my initial comment talked about representation. My claim was never that there are no explicit tops or bottoms and I'm very curious how you came to that conclusion. Although the evidence provided is completely anecdotal and thus only reflects your experience. Statistically speaking from the limited amount of research done on gay and bi men, approximately 45% are switches, 35% are exclusive bottoms and about 15% are exclusive tops (these are approximations not the exact numbers).