Mediocre and lacking

Mr.Blxckie 2.0 March 7, 2021 4:06 pm

This was mediocre at best. The characters aren't really playing off e/o, and most the decisions they make don't fit with their personalityThis really isn't giving what it needs to give. If this was a pwp I wouldn't go sO hard on it, but it isn't It's more centered around the story, which doesn't really make sense because there isn't much of a story. It's just a dude coping with heartbreak and trauma, which would be fine if there was something going on. Nothing is happening, nothing is going on, and I'm honestly very disappointed. What is the plot? I don't understand what's happening, this story is going nowhere. There isn't a gesture to future vents to come, it's just a telenovela. I don't see anything from. the world building side, no business decisions being made, the author doesn't have to focus on world building, but holy fuck, just make it a bit realistic and have some substance. This story likes drive and passion. There is no hint of realism, everything feels cheap and fake, and the trauma bit isn't sticking. I don't feel the characters emotion. This doesn't have potential because there is nothing to begin with. 100% dropping.

Responses
    Shirayuki March 7, 2021 4:47 pm

    How do these characters not act in ways that fit their personality? In my opinion, they all seem to fit their prescribed character in every way, including all the dumb shit they do. In terms of the story, you literally summarized it yourself: it’s a story about coping with loss - whether it’s the loss of a loved one, a loss of passion, a loss of oneself, etc. You say there isn’t much of a story but the story is legit just that and there is nothing wrong with that. Not every story needs to have immediate action, immediate plot that moves every single chapter. In fact, this story is meant to be a slow burn (also it’s first 20 chapters only, a webtoon goes on forever so this is literally like episode 4 in an anime series). It’s a slice of life story and there isn’t meant to be some huge drama. We’re literally still introducing characters and slowly characterizing them at this point. A novel’s first 3 chapters might be boring but you don’t say it’s shit unless you read till the end, do you?

    Second, you say nothing is going on - uh a SHIT ton is going on. First question: What is the plot? Well, the plot is the mc woke up from a trauma, realized his lover left him, then the story splits into two POV: the mc and the ex of his. The MC needs to learn to let go of his dependency on the ex. He slowly does so after being rejected many times. Eventually, he turns his attention to his true passion, his job. He meets someone who allows him to be himself. The relationship starts toxic because they’re simply filling the empty holes in themselves by using each other. The ex tried to let go of the past (but not really which is where the conflict continues). We have the antagonist, I call him the psycho bitch, who has huge insecurities. He acts like an enemy to the MC. The MC starts to regain his independence and self confidence after having time to reflect on himself. Second question: Where is the plot going? This is also obvious if you’ve actually been reading this. The final confrontation of the MC and his ex of course will be the climax of this story. Meanwhile, we have an overarching plot where the antagonist will probably do some shit because he’s insecure, the boss will be shown backstories which will most likely relate to the MC and his situation,
    MC will fall for him, the ex will realize his mistakes, final ending will be when every character in this story finds a suitable ending to their traumas. Legit, I’m not the author but even I can tell that’s the plot and it’s direction right there.

    I have no qualms with you saying this story is boring because it probably is to you and that’s a personal taste. This story and stories of this type aren’t meant for you. However, your criticism isn’t proper criticism because all of the things you say it doesn’t have, it does and it is done in a way that fits the theme the author has presented. You keep mentioning world building but a story of this type does not have an elaborate world to build because the world is within. It’s all internal and subtle. I have no clue what this world building you speak of is because I clearly see it in this story. The setting, the past, the business and connection to the MC’s true passion - it’s literally all there. All of your critiques simply say oh it doesn’t have this and that but no? It has all of that but it just isn’t your taste and that’s different than saying the story is bad because it lacks the basic components of a story. I respect how you feel about the story but your comment just makes no sense. Just say it isn’t your cup of tea because that’s really what you’re trying to say.

    Mr.Blxckie 2.0 March 7, 2021 5:15 pm
    How do these characters not act in ways that fit their personality? In my opinion, they all seem to fit their prescribed character in every way, including all the dumb shit they do. In terms of the story, you l... Shirayuki

    You sound mad. Anyways, I stick by what I said. It's not that it isn't my "cup of tea" it's that the story is lacking in many areas and mediocre AT BEST. There is no drive nor passion I feel from the story, the characters lack any fleshed out, developed personality, and this books world building (though doesn't have to be "elaborate") is fairly rudimentary and isn't handled with proper care. My main criticism is not that those elements do or don't exist (though imo, even if they did exist, they are again- not done well-), it's that everything in this book lacks proper story telling, and key elements such as a literary device, style, emotion! It's just characters doing things; a love story CAN be a plot, but the way this book treats it just comes off as them DOING things without any rhyme or reason. The actions these characters partake in do not fit their personality at all. You said "in your opinion their actions fit with their personality" when you fail to come up with any examples to prove your criticism of my critique.

    Mr.Blxckie 2.0 March 7, 2021 5:17 pm
    You sound mad. Anyways, I stick by what I said. It's not that it isn't my "cup of tea" it's that the story is lacking in many areas and mediocre AT BEST. There is no drive nor passion I feel from the story, the... Mr.Blxckie 2.0

    If we're coming after opinions on the story and not looking at the functionality, then we're getting no where

    Shirayuki March 8, 2021 6:44 am
    If we're coming after opinions on the story and not looking at the functionality, then we're getting no where Mr.Blxckie 2.0

    And that’s exactly what I explained. I gave you my view on the story’s functionality because it functions properly to me. I never attacked your opinion because of course some people find a story boring or stupid, that’s normal. To me, what you are saying about this story is your opinion. And you tell me I don’t give examples. I gave a shit ton of examples to every single remark you gave. You’re the one who speak in generalities without providing examples. You were the one who said the characters don’t act like they should. And I explicitly asked HOW SO in my comment and you refused to answer, instead saying I can’t provide an example. If you told me what irked you off about these characters, then we can have a conversation where I can either agree or refute you but no, you’re actually not giving me anything to say. Without style and emotion - again, the things you say are OPINIONS. You say you’re looking at functionalities but what you wrote about these functionalities are opinions which I have nothing against. What I’m trying to say is that your criticism sounds like something ANY story could be faulted on. Anyone can say oh the characters don’t sound developed to me, the world isn’t built enough, I don’t feel the passion or emotion, to EVERY story on this site and it would be true because it’s your opinion. I’m not mad at you because it’s clear you have a strong opinion on this story. One thing I will agree with you on is that the story is mediocre, yes. It ain’t anything special. If you’re looking for good plot and technically well written stories, then honestly don’t read manhwa. Koreans have this particular writing style that over rely on melodramatics, especially in their webtoons. You probably will say the same thing to almost every webtoon on this site. Just go read a novel instead if you’re looking for professional work.

    Shirayuki March 8, 2021 6:50 am
    If we're coming after opinions on the story and not looking at the functionality, then we're getting no where Mr.Blxckie 2.0

    Basically, in short, what I’m trying to say is a story’s functionality is also subjective. It’s an opinion based analysis. For example, the shittiest story on earth and perhaps most poorly written story to you may be entertaining for some other people out there. So, me talking about what you said isn’t me attacking your opinion so do not feel as if I am mad at you. I’m also saying my opinion on how I feel. I don’t think I said anything offensive towards you. I’m only replying to the things you’ve said to understand more about what you think is wrong with this story because I can also say a few things I don’t like about this story. Though I still read it because I personally want to see where the plot goes (and for the tea lol)

    Shirayuki March 8, 2021 6:58 am
    If we're coming after opinions on the story and not looking at the functionality, then we're getting no where Mr.Blxckie 2.0

    Btw I happened to see your comment on a different manhwa called A Guy Like You. And on that one, I fully agree with your comment because that story was shit in every way possible lol. I just happen to think this story is much better than that one and a few other manhwa I’ve seen on this site which is why it might seem like I’m hard defending this because I actually do think it’s well written with a plot that goes somewhere unlike the other bs like A Guy Like You that drags on forever and had its plot go to la la land in the end for no reason.