yes go off
hell yess bestieee exactly !!
Lol (≧∀≦)
I've been having the same conversations over and over again, most people don't wanna listen. Thought it would be smarter to just have all of my points in one place for people to try and see where we are coming from.
People still dislike it without providing any reasoning, oh well.
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Bro, I respect you so much. I hope more people think like you. I this mesage should be the bible of yaoi conduit. A tear fell down my face while reading this. RESPECT.
I thought a little about what you said, I think they are written to show the difference that choises bring into relationships (like first couple, very nice. Secound future couple, violent and unhealthy.) It shows the HUGE differences between them and they're outcome.
Ok. I have a confession to make. I didn't read the manhwa yet ( and i dont think i want to). Soooo... I dont realy know the plot. Soooo let me get it straigh (pfff... in a yaoi... straight...pff... back to bussines) both couples get rape? (In a way or another?)
Fu*k. ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
I understand thatrape iss the easiest way to shock/intrigue/baffle/entertain the audience BUT rape is serious shit, don't throw rape here and there... makes mama sad ╥﹏╥
The first couple is quite cute and there has been consent so far. The side couple was also cute until now. There was teasing but the line was never crossed, until now.
I can't tell you if it's worth a read, that's up to you. It did personally make me feel uncomfortable and I no longer support the second couple. I wish the rape trope would vanish already!
P.S loved your straight joke lol.
I'm pleasantly surprised with the likes cause the comments I have been seeing are saying otherwise. I'm happy there are also logical sympathetic individuals in yaoiland (づ￣ ³￣)づ
You have morals, like yaoi, have a good grammar (i wrote with so many mistakes) AND liked my joke. (≧∀≦)
Can I marry you?(づ￣ ³￣)づ
Lol no worries. I'm currently a devoted cat mother so I want to focus on that for the time being.
Maybe in the future? Lol (づ￣ ³￣)づ
well said !
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And that’s on period babyyyy
The bullying I got the past few days for my morals is sad honestly. People told me I'm pretending to be superior, smarter and I only want to lecture and educate them forcefully.
And of course they never got my point, I felt so tired and defeated honestly. I did my best to be kind too.
exactly!
I replied this to someone else and I thought I should post it separately for anyone who wants to see the point of view of someone who considers this rape.
Be respectful and kind please.
I'm tired of this whole situation and I really don't want to fight with anyone. I will however share my thoughts.
I acknowledge and respect the fact that people can separate fiction from reality BUT being able to differentiate rape, BDSM and rough play is CRUCIAL. It doesn't matter if you can tolerate it in the name of fiction, still rape. Therefore I don't think anyone is wrong or bad for enjoying a story that includes rape. That was never my point.
1. If authors want to have BDSM elements in their story they need to educate themselves properly. Unfortunately even though this is fiction people can get negatively influenced. It's common to misuse BDSM to excuse rape and it has to stop. This is damaging to the BDSM community.
2. The uke said no multiple times, he was held down against his will and had a dick forcefully shoved in his mouth. He said it hurts and he wants the seme to be more gentle. All of this was completely ignored. To elaborate, firstly they don't know each other that well how can the seme know what the uke wants? That would only be possible after discussing things with him which ofc he didn't cause, yaoi. Even if he is an M there is a proper way and time to handle things. You cannot just decide what to do with someone else's body because you THINK that's what they want. Don't forget that it was his first time too, his poor asshole. Secondly you can give consent and take it back at any time (for anyone who uses the excuse that he went to his house for sex). That doesn't mean anything goes automatically. Thirdly people are also saying he didn't defend himself, that's such a damaging mind-set to real victims. Not everyone has the ability to fight back due to physical strength and/or fear, also maybe sometimes they just shouldn't cause it will put them in more danger. Lastly people are sexual beings so just because they react physically doesn't cancel the rape. If you give consent and want to stop during the intercourse your partner has to listen to you. If not it's rape.
3. No doesn't mean yes. I get what people are trying to imply and it would only be valid in a well communicated sexual relationship. No trust or respect was established in this one. Since the sadistic a-hole didn't stop when he was asked to, then he is no longer just a dickhead but a rapist too. Even if you know someone is more experienced than you or sadistic it doesn't mean you want to be subjected to that at all or to that degree. Boundaries and safe words should have been agreed on beforehand to avoid this mess.
4. People have issues with rapes in all stories whether people are a couple or not. We don't excuse or condone it at all. As we all know being in a relationship doesn't mean you can't get raped. Nothing to do with BDSM like some people tried to insinuate, it just happened to be present in this story.
5. This is yaoiland does anyone really think this will be handled properly? Whatever happened will be swept under the rug since they will eventually get together. Like always. This doesn't cancel out the rape for me and many others. The author's intention doesn't really matter when this is the result. All we ask is for the bare minimum, CONSENT.
I tried my best to explain my point of view in a polite respectful way. I can only ask of you to do the same if you decide to reply. I hope people can understand where I'm coming from.
I'm not shaming anyone who is into BDSM or rough play whether that's fiction or irl. As long as you and your partner consent to it GO AT IT, LIVE YOUR LIFE. I'm happy you have a healthy sex life.
Finally as I said before it's totally OK to enjoy all kinds of stories as long as you can acknowledge when things go wrong. That's all we ask for. Don't deny the blatant rape, abuse etc even if it's in yaoi.
P.S For anyone who says ''well then don't read yaoi'' I have nothing to say to you. You don't get my point, agreed to disagree.
Remember, consent is the sexiest thing when it comes to sex.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.