I’m a degradee but this manga is making me feel uncomfortable...? There wasn’t enough ...

Philosopher January 31, 2021 7:04 am

I’m a degradee but this manga is making me feel uncomfortable...? There wasn’t enough consent for what Ethan put Haesoo up to... If Haesoo was okay with people coming in out of no where that is fine, but Ethan never asked lol. I feel like the slip of “consent” in ch 27 was used in a very buzzword way because by that time, Ethan already made Haesoo do so many things without his permission :/

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    kanekiswife January 31, 2021 7:06 am

    Wasn’t enough consent? bruh

    countrysidelemon January 31, 2021 7:16 am

    I agree with you. It felt very sudden when those people showed up, so much so that it felt wrong..Ethan should have asked. I agree with u as well about the sudden consent thing, obviously its so so much better than just having none at all but its not enough in my opinion. In any relationship (casual, serious, normal, sm or whatever) consent and communication is key, there should always be room for it. It shouldnt have been as sudden as it was.

    Philosopher January 31, 2021 7:17 am
    Wasn’t enough consent? bruh kanekiswife

    Would you explain more to me then? Because I felt really uncomfortable during ch 25-27 when he randomly opened the door and let strangers in to see them have sex. It’s awesome that Haesoo did end up enjoying it, but he never asked if Haesoo would be ok with people coming in.

    Yaoi_lover January 31, 2021 7:22 am

    Hmm I have to disagree... in ch 27 he even said you had to “ask him” & he even realized he was feeling uncomfortable and stopped. Later on he even asked why he kept stopping his sessions. He had each option to stop, he was never forced. So I don’t get whatcha mean.

    Philosopher January 31, 2021 7:28 am
    Hmm I have to disagree... in ch 27 he even said you had to “ask him” & he even realized he was feeling uncomfortable and stopped. Later on he even asked why he kept stopping his sessions. He had each op... Yaoi_lover

    I was referring more to the part about letting strangers in to see them. It’s good that he asked for consent for the other stuff, but it doesn’t make up for the lack of consent for letting people in.

    Philosopher January 31, 2021 7:32 am
    Hmm I have to disagree... in ch 27 he even said you had to “ask him” & he even realized he was feeling uncomfortable and stopped. Later on he even asked why he kept stopping his sessions. He had each op... Yaoi_lover

    Well I guess your consent is also different than mine. For you it seems you are OK to say no and stop after the act has started. But for me I want the option to say no before the act starts. For example, I don’t want to be seen by other people and would like the door to not be opened. So I would feel betrayed if the door suddenly opened without my say. Even if I have the option to say close it afterwards, I would still feel uncomfortable because but that time I’ve already been seen.

    Yaoi_lover January 31, 2021 7:34 am
    I was referring more to the part about letting strangers in to see them. It’s good that he asked for consent for the other stuff, but it doesn’t make up for the lack of consent for letting people in. Philosopher

    Well I mean he likes that kind of stuff, that’s what turns him on. And I feel he started to realize that when he was in the bunny costume. If he didn’t like it he would of stopped as soon as he heard the people around him, but instead it seems he enjoyed it. I honestly feel like he knew what he was getting himself into and is okay with it.

    Yaoi_lover January 31, 2021 7:37 am
    Well I guess your consent is also different than mine. For you it seems you are OK to say no and stop after the act has started. But for me I want the option to say no before the act starts. For example, I don�... Philosopher

    Hmm not really I wouldn’t do something like this, lol guess I’m more on the vanilla side when it comes to showing people my body lol. But for him he obviously enjoys it. That’s the difference between you, me, & him.

    Philosopher January 31, 2021 7:41 am
    Well I mean he likes that kind of stuff, that’s what turns him on. And I feel he started to realize that when he was in the bunny costume. If he didn’t like it he would of stopped as soon as he heard the pe... Yaoi_lover

    It is great that Haesoo did end up liking it, I’m not denying that. But it still doesn’t my change the fact that it happened without asking Haesoo first. Another thing is that consent in the past doesn’t mean consent in the present. People’s comfort levels can change as days go by.

    Nanatsu-chan January 31, 2021 8:21 am
    It is great that Haesoo did end up liking it, I’m not denying that. But it still doesn’t my change the fact that it happened without asking Haesoo first. Another thing is that consent in the past doesn’t ... Philosopher

    True but idk, the dude seems to be grooming him slowly and he a pro. It seemed like consensual grooming. Ma man knew what he was getting into then he set foot into that bath house, he knew anything could happen and that he can say no if it starts to become too much.