IF HES A PEDO HE CANT HELP IT!?!? LMAOAOA YALL ARE SO EMBARRASSING
If you think I made that up just because I want to romanticize the situation then you can look it up yourself in human neuroscience studies, I quote:
(1) "pedophilia as a sexual reference must be seen independently from sexual offending against children" (to summary what they are saying is people with pedophilia usually are not the one who do sexual assault to children, and it was done by a person that doesn't have sexual preference thus not discriminating who their target it whether it's male, female or children) I quote from different article "not all those who sexually abuse children are paedophiles, with many abusers acting opportunisticly or due to something other than sexual preference for children. This distinction isn't always well understood.....anyone who abuse child chooses to do so, it is not the case that people with paedophilia choose to have this sexual attraction" (I translate it to they don't want it but they can't help it.)
(2) "aside from psychiatric comorbidities, neuropsychological alterations are another important issue, which have been addressed by several studies" (if you're not aware neuropsychological alterations also found in people with personality disorder, parkinson and other disease. And just like people with parkinson can't control themselves because something is wrong with their nervous system, similar case with people who has pedophilia disorder who was found to have alteration of their brain's frontal lobe, temporal lobe or dimorphic brain structure.)
(3) "pedophilic sexual preference is a neurodevelopmental disorder corroborated by increased rates of non-righ-handedness, shorter stature, lower intelligence, head injury, prenatal androgen levels, and the associated neuronal structural and functional differences that are present since childhood and/or adolscence". (You see that it's already present since childhood, if that doesn't mean that they can't help it I don't know what does. Who wants to be born as a pedo if they can help it, these people already fully aware it was wrong but as you can see that condition is present since childhood because of their brain structure that they are born with or due to fatal head injury that cause alteration to their brain)
I'll only quote those 3 because there are lots of studies for it and I can't possibly insert all here. I only put ones that answer your "they can't help it" comment. You can look it up yourself in websites for scholars
Also, I copy some of the references you could use if you wish to learn more about it, it's more than 100 studies about this topic. Just read it if you have free time or don't if you don't want to:
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What the fuck
First of all I replied to you because you said that he doesn't fit those characteristics when he does, sexual urges and fantasies towards children? Yeah he masturbated to him when he was a child
Okay, so let's just say he is a pedo. He still wasn't a sexual offender, because he doesn't touch the boy or forcing himslef to the boy, despite knowing he's attracted to one. And if you read my previous comment you'll see that being a pedo is different than a child sexual offender and being a pedo is not a choice unlike a sexual offender that chooses to be one. Another quote "The biological clues attached to pedophilia demonstrate that its roots are prenatal," said the director of the Toronto sexuality center. "These are not genetic; they can be traced to specific periods of development in the womb." Something that already developed in the womb, so him being pedo wasn't really his choice, he couldn't help it if he was born and then grew up to be someone who likes younger boy, it's already happened when he's still in the womb.
And he is fully aware that his feeling is taboo, that's why he waits after he ask permission from the boy's parents, acknowledging that this situation is wrong but he couldn't help it (due to the scientific reasons I mentioned above) So he wait, he doesn't groom the boy, he doesn't make the boy dependent on him, he gets angry when other adult actually inappropriately touch the boy, he just live his life while waiting till the boy is of age. And even after the waiting, he is still prepared to leave the already grown up boy, because he's thinking of the boy's future since a gay relationship is still frowned upon in Japan. He's just lucky in the story the boy actually like him back.
The other reason why I think he's not a pedo (this is based on my own opinion) is because he only like that one person. If he is a pedo then he'll like children in general. But in the story he only like that one person, so I see it as he just like an individual but that individual happens to be a child that makes it controversial. So it's not because he's a child then the seme comes to like him but because he likes the the person and it clashes with the age. And after reading a bunch articles about it, if the seme really is a pedo then he would lose interest when the boy is older. Due to this reason "their sexual preferences have not matured like everyone else’s. Most get stuck on the same-age boys or girls who first attracted them at the start of puberty, though some retain interest in far younger children" Meaning the seme would get over his crush when the boy is older, if he really is a pedo.
I never said he was a sex offendor
WHAT??? ARE- you think its okay that he felt sexual urges toward a child because he waited till he was 18 to fuck & date him?? Do you hear yourself? He was jealous of other adults for parenting him, he shouldn't be feeling this way for a child
He masturbated to a child. What more do you need to hear? This is already an immediate red flag
Do you even read what I gave you? Pedo becomes a pedo not because they want to. It is not their choice to want to masturbate to a child, it happens because of different brain development that they experienced while they're sill in their mother's tummy, making their sexual preference geared to younger people, because that part of their brain that controls sexual preference wasn't constructed as how it should've been. He wouldn't be feeling this way if his brain is developed like normal people. Of course I don't think it's okay for an adult to have feelings for a child, but what can I do, what anyone can do about this disorder when doctors don't even have a medicine for it. It's not like I'm god who can mend his brain and make it like normal people's brain. Should I just condemned them for a disorder that is developed even before they were born? Should I immediately treat them like criminal and categorized them as a sex offender even when they haven't assault anyone? Would you treat others with physical or mental disability like it's their fault they are that way? And do you think the sickness will be cured if people just scream pedo is wrong pedo is wrong, it's like saying just be happy to someone who has depression. At least he's doing the right thing and wait until the boy is older instead of forcing himself like other characters in other mangas and become a real criminal.
Whether its a choice or not the shit still happened. That's like me accidentally killing someone and you saying I couldn't help it. Bitch they still dead you can't change nothing
You defending pedophiles cause they can't help it that doesn't mean feed into the behavior bozo
I can understand that this conversation is going no where. When you based your view on a shallow understanding influenced by mainstream media and majority voice and the generalization use of the word pedo vs my view based on health, psychological research and studies even when in earlier comments I already point out that pedo and sex offenders are different and the one who usually assault a child is sex offender and not pedo yet you keep suggesting by how you respond that they are practically the same. Regarding the manga, at the end, nothing happened to the child. He dated a grown up, not a child. What the character do in his private time doesn't affect the child in person, just like how people masturbated to a porn no matter how outrageous the content is, it doesn't affect anyone. If you can't understand something as simple as that, then why are you in this site, basically feeding to fetishising gay men? You think it's any better?
I am a gay man, what??? But anyways, I'm not saying they're the same im telling you whether you choose to like children or not, you're still liking children.
Being gay doesn't give you the card to be entitled and hv stronger voice than literal science studies, medical journals, aimed to understand and actually solve and fix said mental disorder.
I doubt you read any of the medical studies quoted tho lol
Ty for the medical journals referenced. I never actually tried looking up for materials on these as I'm actually pretty uncomfortable when I have to read or talk about real cases of such. But seeing you type them out in such a scientific way kinda calmed me down.
Literally what I never me being gay ment I was smarter nor had a stronger voice and yeah I skimmed through them cus whether its a choice or not you're still doing it at the end of the day
LMAOO THIS IS HILARIOUS
So i just read a couple of articles about pedo after reading this. And some of characteristics that I get regarding pedophile are, they have:
- sexual attraction to prepubescent children
- sexual urges and fantasies toward children
- sustained, focused, and intense pattern of sexual arousal like persistent sexual thoughts, or behaviours towards children.
So does Miharu fits those characteristics? For me, nope.
When they first met Miharu can't even handle children. What i see, Miharu is just looking for that genuine love and compassion that he never really experienced in his life. And at that moment of emptiness, Heita with his child innocence showed it to him. Overwhelmed by how such pure and genuine thing could really exist, Miharu wanted to have it and treasure it, and in the spur of the moment expressed it to Heita's parents. His first view of Heita is almost like when someone sees a god or deity and expect them to always have love and compassion 24/7. He treats Heita like an angel or something like a vesel that contains true love and compassion. But that kind of mindset changed after the conversation they have in the park. Miharu realized Heita is not an "angel" and just a normal human that have dreams and wishes. From there I guess Miharu became more self aware about his relationship with Heita.
But then again, that's just what I see from the story. Even if Miharu really is a pedo, I guess he can't really help it since pedophilia is considered a mental disorder, so like any other disorders its not like he has any control and planned to be one. And also don't mix pedophile with child molester or child sexual abuser. Because not all child molester is a pedophile. People who has pedophilia struggles to contain their urges because they know it's morally wrong, that's why they often get depression and need medical help, or if they really can no longer hold it they ended up doing the crime. Child molester could be anyone and doesn't always have to have interest to children, but they know it's taboo and gets excited to try it to give spices to their normal sexual life... people who knows what they're doing is sick but still do it anyway. It's sad people immediately generalized pedophile (who already struggle with their disorder) as a child sexual abuser, when some of them never even touch a child. (One of my friend is a psychiatrist and therapist and she said the struggle is real)