ion know bout this.

While I am against shizu chan way of telling you guys to not read it
But do u really think that this normalise anything ???
Like in yaoi or shounn ai there are millions of sick concepts and shoujo or Josei have heavy sexist concepts but I never saw anyone complaining
I agree with ur words that incest is so disgusting and it may the minds of teen manipulated but I think ur talk should be directed to all the shit out there
Cuz ppl in this site are even 9 and 11 years old reading heavy shit that my 25 year old self fears to read !!!
This manga isnot even considered incest cuz they aren’t blood related at all
With trying to understand ur points
And shizu point of view
Both of you right and wrong at the same time
Ur fear is acknowledged and I I know where u come from but
With manga having fiction and may have a concept that may trigger ppl
Each chapter is filled with preaching!! Like I get why the annoyance that shizu zhan talking about
If ppl hated manga for its concept so much why they bother coming in every chapter of this same mange ( not talking about you here )

So let’s be cool and enjoy what we want
U r free to say ur opinion and shizu too
As long as it is respectful

I get ur annoyance
But why bother telling them to go away when they just stated their opinion!!
Why do u think that no body cares !!! Just because u don’t
Plz be abit more respectful to others opinions
They do have a point about fiction being a method to tolerate shit
And I know how annoyed it feels to be preached each chapter but they were just stating their opinion in the first. Chapter
They didn’t come in the middle of the manga to say how such it is
Anyway enjoyable reading (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Then don't pretend to be some sort of upstanding moralistic person. It's disgusting.

i understand you. but i don't agree with how ur saying these tropes are not normalised?? like this manga right here amoungst many others literally are proof that it's normalised?? like it wouldn't be here if it wasn't.

how am i pretending? u don't even know me?

It's just so annoying. They do this in every manga.. you would see these same people doing this in the future chapters as well. That's how they get off - being pseudo-moralistic.
It's better to be harsh at the start so they don't spoil the rest. I get I was being rude, but it's so tiring because of these kinds of people.

I don’t mean it isNot normalised
I meant this specific manga doesn’t normalise anything cuz they are it blood related
In some countries that is not incest
Just like cousins relationships
Some countries don’t consider it incest as well many ppl can marry their cousins
I know what are u fearing to be normalised but this manga ( being not blood related ) kinda proves that it is still not normalised

just ignore it? u purposely came here to cause ur own frustration with this argument?
nobody needs to accommodate you, find your peace by yourself instead of demanding others to submit to your preferences. YOU leave and ignore the comments instead of fruitlessly arguing with everyone.

the intentional near-miss with the incest trope is the "proof" that im talking about. this is literally a textbook example of conditioning.

I get ur point and I know how annoying it gets
But maybe they aren’t the annoying ppl u think they are
Maybe they won’t be the ones preaching in the next chapters
It will happen anyway we all know it
But u just got harsh on some ppl that made their point of view in the very first chapter
And to be honest even if they continue reading it and said the manga sucks till the end of this manga that won’t change the fact that all ppl can respectfully say their opinion
We don’t have the right to tell ppl not to say their opinion
I know it gets very overwhelming but what we gonna do , ppl are different
So instead of being rude or get mad at ppl cuz we fear the annoyance of them or the any other ppl
Ignore what u dislike and that is it
Hope we all just solve it here
I really hope for y’all to enjoy ur time here cuz life is shit as it is
We all have struggles in real life
No need to make the only good part of our days bad for some argument
(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Nah fam I clearly don’t understand cultures then
Cousins isnot considers incest or even bad things b many religions and cultures from like ages ago
That have nothing to do with the international incest trope
Cuz these cultures are there since forever
Incest is viewed by many ppl as relationships between the siblings who or parents uncles aunts and that is it
Many ppl actually never consider cousins to be incest
I have many friends from many parts of the world
And I can tell u for sure
This isnot normalising anything
This is what their beliefs are since forever
So actually that doesn’t prove anything

Oh fuck off don't read bl if you're so against conditioning. You're the one who will likely be brainwashed into liking such controversial plots. I assure you people who read these stories DON'T rationalise OR romanticize or CONDITION themselves to think it's even remotely ok. But that doesn't mean they can't read it or even enjoy reading it. SIMPLY READING SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE YOU A DEFENDER OF IT. Rapists or paedophiles or people in incestuous relationships are already that fucked up. I bet you blame violence in movies for violence in actual society too

Oh you mean near_ miss trope
As in not blood related !!?
Mm I think it is quite the opposite
We may have different opinions and I will respect That
But I really do think it is the opposite
Many shit here is clear incest ( no near miss )
Here I will actually say it is normalising

you know these "cultures" from ur friends, i know from first hand experience. don't mistake stuff like this for our culture, it's literally from collective mindset. don't confuse the two.

i never said this. also everyone is affected by implicit influence...

i don't think u understand what I'm saying.

Not from friends only But
First hand ??! And you don’t agree with ur culture ??
Many
I Read that many religions have that also
So ?? Collective mindset ?? I don’t think so
That is clearly different of opinions
It shows how we as humans can be different as long as we all agree on some basic concepts
You can’t be the one criminalising something that huge population of the world finds it normal
This isn’t it
U have all the right to accept or not accept something
But u don’t get to say ( normalising something is bad ) when it is actually normal for many ppl

im not referring to "near-miss" as a trope. I'm talking in the literal sense.

EWWWWWWWWW wtf are you saying??? Nobody is getting influenced who aren't already fucked in the head. If you think such things are so influential, you clearly see everyone in the world is so damn stupid that anyone would be ok with rationalizing incestuous relationships because they read a BL??? oh fuck off
If you're like that, please get help.

Even those people that read actual blood relatives in these mangas, they know it's fucked up. Trust me nobody who isn't already fucking their siblings/relatives thinks it's super gross. Still they can read it and not bitch about it. They know what fiction and real life is...
Clearly you don't and you think nobody else either.